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	<title>Comments on: A little quiz on Ireland&#8217;s income tax</title>
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		<title>By: Ronan Lyons</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronan Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymoussquirrel
Let&#039;s assume for the moment that you&#039;re not married, so that we can get your effective tax rate up as high as it can go.
The first €36,400 of your income is taxed at 20%, so that&#039;s €7,280 on to your tax bill. From this we have to subtract €1,830 in tax credits and another €1,830 in PAYE credits, so your tax bill so far is €3,620, or just a rate of under 10%. For your overall effective rate to be 27%, the government would need to be taxing you 71% of your remaining €11,600, which they&#039;re clearly not.

In fact, they&#039;re taxing you 41% on that last quarter of your income, which means your effective income tax rate is 17%, not 27%. As is outlined in the post, the latest figures we have are pre-income levy, so you can add on another 1% - that brings you up to 18%. (If you&#039;re married, your rate will be even lower.)

Thanks for the comment and for giving me the opportunity to explain the breakdown in a little more detail,
R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymoussquirrel<br />
Let&#8217;s assume for the moment that you&#8217;re not married, so that we can get your effective tax rate up as high as it can go.<br />
The first €36,400 of your income is taxed at 20%, so that&#8217;s €7,280 on to your tax bill. From this we have to subtract €1,830 in tax credits and another €1,830 in PAYE credits, so your tax bill so far is €3,620, or just a rate of under 10%. For your overall effective rate to be 27%, the government would need to be taxing you 71% of your remaining €11,600, which they&#8217;re clearly not.</p>
<p>In fact, they&#8217;re taxing you 41% on that last quarter of your income, which means your effective income tax rate is 17%, not 27%. As is outlined in the post, the latest figures we have are pre-income levy, so you can add on another 1% &#8211; that brings you up to 18%. (If you&#8217;re married, your rate will be even lower.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and for giving me the opportunity to explain the breakdown in a little more detail,<br />
R</p>
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		<title>By: anonymoussquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymoussquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where you and Revenue Commissioners get you&#039;re data from I earn 47k and pay 27% in real incom taxes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where you and Revenue Commissioners get you&#8217;re data from I earn 47k and pay 27% in real incom taxes</p>
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		<title>By: Five things to remember when judging Budget 2010 &#124; Ronan Lyons</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Five things to remember when judging Budget 2010 &#124; Ronan Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5. The structure of the taxation system is also important. No-one is arguing that we can, let alone should, return to 2006 when stamp duties and capital taxes provided 16% of our revenues, but there is a danger in over-reliance on income taxes, which seems to be the only lever under discussion. Income taxes typically have provided about 30% of the Government&#8217;s tax revenues. Next year, they will provide much closer to 40% (actually 37.5%). In absolute terms, the picture is not as alarming. The Government expects to take in €12bn in income tax next year, compared to €11.4bn in 2005. However, the income tax system is incredibly over-reliant on those with high incomes, while two thirds of earners paying hardly anything in tax. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5. The structure of the taxation system is also important. No-one is arguing that we can, let alone should, return to 2006 when stamp duties and capital taxes provided 16% of our revenues, but there is a danger in over-reliance on income taxes, which seems to be the only lever under discussion. Income taxes typically have provided about 30% of the Government&#8217;s tax revenues. Next year, they will provide much closer to 40% (actually 37.5%). In absolute terms, the picture is not as alarming. The Government expects to take in €12bn in income tax next year, compared to €11.4bn in 2005. However, the income tax system is incredibly over-reliant on those with high incomes, while two thirds of earners paying hardly anything in tax. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liam Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ronan
    I rolled along with the common perceptions even though I pay damn all tax myself.I thought I was being smart claiming all the right allowences.It appears my friends and neighbours have been missrepresenting their own tax liabilities</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ronan<br />
    I rolled along with the common perceptions even though I pay damn all tax myself.I thought I was being smart claiming all the right allowences.It appears my friends and neighbours have been missrepresenting their own tax liabilities</p>
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		<title>By: Ireland's inequality and taxes on Vincent Browne - Page 15 - Politics.ie</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ireland's inequality and taxes on Vincent Browne - Page 15 - Politics.ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Govt to tax the lower paid and cut dole - Politics.ie</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>Govt to tax the lower paid and cut dole - Politics.ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that the median earner only pays 4% tax rate this is fair, for analysis of Irish taxation see  Ronan Lyons- Tax quiz and Are Irish workers undertaxed?  cYp   __________________ &quot;Yawn , am I alive yet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that the median earner only pays 4% tax rate this is fair, for analysis of Irish taxation see  Ronan Lyons- Tax quiz and Are Irish workers undertaxed?  cYp   __________________ &quot;Yawn , am I alive yet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We live in a redistributive kleptocracy that has institutionalised Robin Hood - Politics.ie</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1179</link>
		<dc:creator>We live in a redistributive kleptocracy that has institutionalised Robin Hood - Politics.ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Allegedly a tax raise would scare away the workers somewhere - Politics.ie</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1177</link>
		<dc:creator>Allegedly a tax raise would scare away the workers somewhere - Politics.ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pointed out by Ronan Lyons- say here- we already have a highly progressive tax system, with the median earner paying a mere 4% tax  Karl [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Irish Economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Limited Gains from Taxing the Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>The Irish Economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Limited Gains from Taxing the Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Two things stand out from the Revenue figures. First, contrary to what many appear to think, the tax rate structure is highly progressive. Those with income below €20,000 pay almost no income tax, the person on the average income of about €35,000 pay an average tax rate of about nine percent, while those with incomes above €100,000 pay over twenty seven percent. This point about progressivity has been well made before by Ronan Lyons. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Two things stand out from the Revenue figures. First, contrary to what many appear to think, the tax rate structure is highly progressive. Those with income below €20,000 pay almost no income tax, the person on the average income of about €35,000 pay an average tax rate of about nine percent, while those with incomes above €100,000 pay over twenty seven percent. This point about progressivity has been well made before by Ronan Lyons. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Surely it's time that some high earners are taxed the same as those on much less pay? - Page 2 - Politics.ie</title>
		<link>http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/28/a-little-quiz-on-irelands-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>Surely it's time that some high earners are taxed the same as those on much less pay? - Page 2 - Politics.ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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